Level 1: Get Oracle with Heavens Mistery: Awesome Display revelation, and deaf Curse. Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) Magical Knack (Magus) Feats L1 Spell focus (evocation) L3 Spell Specialization, +2 caster level on one spell L5 Intensified Spell (Shocking Grasp) Dervish Dance +5 Hit, +5 Damage Arcane Pool +1 Hit, +1 Damage 10 Rds Arcane Accuracy +4 HitA Kitsune with 6 levels of Fey Sorcerer and Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage can throw +4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter. Defraeter. I'd like to keep the cold theme of the character intact if at all possible. It's not a requirement for the build, but something to certainly consider. Illusionist Spells Prepared (CL 1st; concentration +4) 1st — hypnotism (DC 14), silent image (DC 14), vanish. 2014-10-03, 08:27 AM. Also, for your wizard class you probably want evoker (admixture) so that you can swap your fire spells into other elemental damage for all the monsters that have fire resistance. For example, take a 5th-level Human Wizard with Gifted Adept, Wayang Spellhunter, Toppling Spell, Spell Specialization: Magic Missile, Spell Focus: Evocation, Varisian Tattoo, and Knowledge is Power with 22 Int (20 plus a +2 headband). Lightning bolt or fireball work well, but any d6/level spell is optimal. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . If you go with Blood Conduit I'd pick up Ascetic Style to swift-action cast spells through a manufactured weapon when you simply want to deal damage instead of relying on combat maneuvers. 1st spell specialisation (burning hands) 3rd varisian tattoo evocation. Spell perfection for one free metamagic feat. Or if you prefer Maximize, it now uses 4th level slots and you throw your Rod of Empower on top . Aside from Magical lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, is there anything else that can be used to reduce a spell's effective level? I know there is spell perfection, but that is at lvl 15, and thats a LONG way from now (lvl 2). The treants only took minor damage before GTFOing, the siege trees made like the Chosen Undead and became kindling. That way you can have an empowered enervation as a level 5 spell. Level 6 – Wizard Bonus Feat – Empower Spell. Brian Abend Puntos 61. Choose: A spell of 3rd level or below. Tons of benefits for both positive and negative channeling, and of course many variant channels are powerful in their own right. Of course, a GM may rule otherwise, but I wouldn't expect this reading to be accepted at an average table. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +4) 6/day — blinding ray. Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell?EDIT: If a GM is really into stopping it, they might use the wording of Wayang Spellhunter against it. Wayang Spellhunter says:"When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Size: Wayangs are Small creatures and thus gain a +1 size bonus to their AC, a +1 size bonus on attack rolls, a –1 penalty on their CMB and to CMD, and a +4 size bonus on Stealth checks. Probably Heighten or Maximize too. My character went human so he could have both Irrisen Icemage and Extra Traits (Spellhunter and Gifted Adept. Fireball is good because it has a solid AOE and It's at a level that's decently accessible and also ripe for metamagic application (including being low enough for wayang spellhunter to apply). I know that there is also Spell Perfection, which would definitely help, though that is not a low-level feat. The ability to freely apply intensify spell or rime spell to it can be either a solid damage booster in the mid levels or a decent debuff. 5 damage ALL. Wayang Spellhunter: effectively the same, and they stack. Buy the wand and just hand it to a caster. You use a 1st level pearl of power. The regional trait originally appeared in the Dragon Empires Primer as Wayang Spellhunter (14), and, as the name and provenance suggests, a GM may limit the trait's availability to those from a region like Golarion's Minata which is populated largely (but not exclusively) by wayangs. Sign In; Cart . And like I've been saying, the abilities you use to discount the spell are irrelevant. Magical Lineage: Fireball, Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball. This means that the benefit of the trait Magical Lineage can be combined with the benefit of the trait Wayang Spellhunter (i. . Reply Javaed. Defense. Although, I really like the thought of Dazing Spell, Extra Traits (Magical Lineage(Flaming Sphere), Wayang Spellhunter (Flaming Sphere)). Spell penetration is also rather useful depending on what sorts of enemies your GM throws at you. magical lineage and wayang spellhunter (both for fireball) are both decent traits to pick up, as together they let you empower your fireballs for free. That said, there are very few builds that are reliant on traits. A wizard 5/Sorcerer 1 with 23 Int, Admixture school specialization, Crossblooded sorc archetype with Orc+Solar or Dragonic bloodlines, Greater Spell Focus (evocation), Empower metamagic feat, and Wayang Spellhunter+Magical Lineage traits: (5d6+12)x1. 7th (normal) magic trick. Your plan to use Frostbite is simply replacing shocking grasp as your one trick. WarrenCraftlocke. Wayang. That trait lowers the spell's level by one when the spell is used with a metamagic feat, of which there are several which have a +0 spell level adjustment. Call Lightning has an annoying 1 round cast time. So if you want to switch around Lineage/Wayang later in the game, you can do so with a bit of coin. 剪影魔猎(Wayang Spellhunter) 出自《初探龙国》(Dragon Empires Primer) 类型 :地区背景(Region) 需求 :来自民那塔(Minata) 效果 :你生长在民那塔剪影人聚集的群岛之一。天生善于使用魔法进行狩猎。 An intesified vampiric touch with wayang spell hunter is a level 3 in all aspects. Note, unlike Combat Casting, this applies to ALL concentration checks. . I also wonder whether it is better to have a bladebound. That definitely feels like a lot of hexes, too. For your traits you can take magical lineage and wayang spell hunter. So unless your character is from Minata in Tian Xia, your GM might have an issue with it. Extra Rage 6O. Why in the first section is Magical Lineage yellow and Wayang Spellhunter green? Magical Lineage should be ranked as better than (or at most equal to) Wayang Spellhunter, since Magical Lineage has no limitation on the spell level (and has no wierd regional requirement). Select a spell of 3rd level or below. The latter works the same way, but must be put towards a 3rd-level or lower spell. The Rod thing is direct from. Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. James Risner Owner - D20 Hobbies If you took Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage, you can use Toxic Spell on your cantrips/orisons; if you took both, you can apply Focused Spell to the cantrip/orison too. Magical Lineage makes the modified spell one level lower, while Wayang Spellhunter allows the modified spell to use a slot one level lower than normal. Bear in mind that the Magus probably wants to use his swift actions on something else than reducing spell failure chance. 120 damage . 1. RT Extra Traits > Magical Lineage (Enervation) Wayang Spellhunter (Enervation) So here's how it works. Dragonborn3. 1Magus1 Spell Combat Spell Focus: Evoc, Spell special 2 Magus2 Spellstrike 3 Sorcerer1 Crossblooded. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . At 3rd you'll have 3. Select a spell of. A. Your spell selection will look a little different, but the action economy savings of Spell Combat are still fantastic. Appearance. The treants only took minor damage before GTFOing, the siege trees made like the Chosen Undead and became kindling. Then take something like Spell Focus: Evocation and maybe Toughness. Flamboyant Arcana, Dervish Dance or Fencing Grace (shift to level 1 for Human + Kensai) 5. It is limited in uses per day, but 5 of those is enough to solve most days problems. You can, in theory, just crank it for healing/damage with Selective Channel, Quick. service@paizo. Empowered Fireball as a 3rd level spell, 15d6+30. Much sooner than level 12. Wayang Spellhunter is a Regional feat from Minata Isles. When you use this spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage. The wayangs are a race of small supernatural humanoids who trace their ancestry to the Plane of Shadows. Wayangs with a Charisma score of 11 or higher gain the following spell-like abilities: 1/day—ghost sound, pass without trace, ventriloquism (caster level equals the wayang’s. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage (Fireball) Feats: Spell Focus (evocation) Greater Spell Focus (Evocation) Empower Spell, Varisian Tattoo (Evocation), Spell Specialization (Fireball) Fast Study This wizard casts empowered fireball in a 3rd level slot for the following ((9d6+18)x1. Region. Arcane Deed: Precise Strike. Circle of Death is a 6th level wizard spell, so its base DC is 16 (10 + spell level). With Spell Specialization, Varisian Tattoo, Bloatmage Initiate and Potent magic you could cast Empowered, Intensified Burning. You could make an Admixture Evoker with Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage, both lowering the cost of Burning Hands, then take Empower Spell and apply it to Burning Hands without increasing the level. but seriously, I don't recommend that level of optimization to most games. The fact that they made one a magic trait and one a regional trait would seem to me that they can both be used together, so long as the above FAQ ruling is not violated. Then use Still Spell + Wayang Spellhunter on your favorite offensive spell. Sign In; Cart . But my other trait is spoken for - Hermean Paragon (+2 trait bonus to Initiative) for flavor reasons. They are extremely gaunt, with pixielike stature and skin the color of. 20d6 compared to 8d6. Author. Each one of them gives you a total -1 metamagic adjustment to a spell, but Wayang Spellhunter only works on spells of 3rd level or lower. It's possible to reduce the spell-level by 1 using either the Magical Lineage or Wayang Spellhunter trait. The reason for combat stamina is that it allows you to spend stamina points when using arcane strike to cause it to persist for a number of rounds. 1 level dip for that + Wizard gets 4 more damage. ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2) Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. The best it can do is reduce a spell back to the original spell level. So a true regional trait. Pick one spell when you choose this trait. Round 2: Cast Touch of Idiocy and move up to enemy. Business, Economics, and Finance. I would need to pick one spell and live or die by it. Since I don’t think there is one suggest your favorites. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. You still get the arcane bond from the bloodline. And with Wayang Spellhunter, that's 3rd in this case. Is this possible of is there something I'm missing. It might seem. Murderous command doesn't become a cantrip with the trait. Another trait that comes to mind is the Wayang Spellhunter from the Dragon Empires Primer which should stack with Magical Lineage as it is a different regional trait as opposed to a magical one. As for the metamagic feats themselves, Persistent Spell and Quicken Spell seem mandatory. Plan to use Additional Traits to grab Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage to add both to 1 primary spell and use metamagic Persistent for free on it. *Curses: +Lame/-Haunted* / *Revelation: Prophetic Armor* 3O. S, I convinced my player(the same player) not to use the magical lineage + Wayang spellhunter according to the response of designer Mark Seifter. Wayang Spellhunter (lower metamagic cost 1 level) Magic Items: Flawed Orange Prism (+ 1 caster level) Otherworldly Kimono (+4 caster level) Prayer Beads - Karma (+4 caster level, needs UMD skill check to use)Why Gifted Adept over Wayang Spellhunter or Magical Lineage? They are good too. As a numbers example, a level 10 human with spell focus, varisian tattoo, and bloodmage initiate for evocation spell, spell specialization for fireball, intensify spell, empower spell, the orc and gold draconic bloodlines, and magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for fireball can throw out an empowered intensified fireball out of a. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. Flaming Sphere and Snapdragon Fireworks are good once you have all the metamagic and Dispel Magic is going to become. The cheesiest traits would be Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, both keyed to Fireball to make it easier to cast metamagic fireballs (you would be able to use an empowered fireball at level 6). Looks like the only way is to talk to my player. 120 damage . Select a spell of 3rd level or below. All thoughts, advice, putdowns, or tongue-in-cheek jokes welcome. this isnt referring to BEING wayang. If the spell is DC-based or doesn't do damage, you might be better off using the Heighten or Persistent. Additional Traits is a really good feat if you plan it right, letting you pick up Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball) at 5th level when you get Fireball while you use your bonus feat to pick up Sickening Spell or Empower Spell. After that point you have some feat options, with rapid shot, intensify spell/rime spell (if you took wayang spellhunter), and combat stamina (if your GM allows it) all being worth considering. People will say that you can use both, but there is language about how traits don't stack, so this is questionable at best. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. It's Wayang Spellhunter all over again and I thought the goal of PF2 was to eliminate fishing for such options. at first level you grab spell focus: evocstion and spell specialization: burning hands. Archives of Nethys are now the official Paizo srd, and is permitted to use Golarion-specific names. Around level 8 this is what combat would look like if you are trying to make a fool out of the BBEG: Round 1: Drink mutagen-ale and cast Haste (via spell combat). 135 damage and they have to make 2 reflex saves or be dazed for 3 rounds. This is a huge topic. DC 45 with Normal Stuff (credit to Ben S. Requirement (s) Minata. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Channel power: Basically an extra, second empower. As I said, I am committed to half orc. Traits: all traits on pages 8-21 except Chosen Child and Rebel Leader. Unlike the related and formerly superior. I did consider doing it with Shocking Grasp, because I was also eyeballing Brewkeeper and it has strong synergy with touch spells but I probably wont for the reasons I stated above. Arcana: Accurate Strike or Arcane Accuracy . Wayang spell hunter + Magical Lineage for a Wizard. If you're human (two feats), at level 1 you can cast disruptive magic missiles. I'd take Additional Traits around lvl 7-9ish and throw Wayang/Lineage on Touch of Idiocy so you can prepare a couple. For race human would be a decent choice just because of the extra feat. And that's all you need for some sick fireball damage. 5x the damage Levels 1-7, use Empowered Shocking Grasp in your 1st level slotsWayang Spellhunter (region trait) That's at least a +8 caster level boost! If you're lucky, if you pickup the traits with the Additional Traits feat, your GM may allow you to double their bonuses to caster level from the Spell Perfection feat. Greater spell focus is kinda weak for your limited feats. Doing the rest as a Two-Weapon Warrior Fighter or. Magical Lineage and/or Wayang Spellhunter shouldn't be overlooked, as these only enable more chicanery. Nefreet : Jun 25, 2013, 02:16 pm: HERE is a previous discussion on the matter. Magical Lineage: Benefit: Pick one spell when you choose this trait. The boon restriction to create a kitsune, nagaji, and wayang was removed at the start of Season 6 and all three are now available for open creation. Eyes and Ears of the City. MonocleRogue mentioned both of those (Wayang Spellhunter = Metamagic Master). ; Perception +2 Defense AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 11 (+3 Dex, +1 size) hp 8 (1d6+2)Quite frankly, seeing as Wayang Spellhunter is a functional reprint of Magical Lineage, you shouldn't even be allowed to take both, even if you want to apply them to different spells - they just didn't reprint it because all the traits in the book Wayang Spellhunter is in are regional traits, whereas Magical Lineage is a magic trait. Wayang Spellhunter is a regional trait Since the only restrictions on traits is that they have to be of different types it does look like you can have them both. About the P. This follows the written developers intention for the Trait system. The former can apply to any single spell, and reduces the modified level by 1 after you've applied metamagic to it. If optimizing to the hilt pair it with Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter and Sacred Geometry. Wayang Spellhunter (Flaming Sphere) Revelations: Freezing Spells Misfortune Fortune Snow Sight Ice Armor Feats: Spell Focus (Cold) Greater Spell Focus (Cold) Rime Spell Elemental Spell (Cold) Spontaneous Metafocus, Flaming Sphere Persistent Spell Spontaneous Metafocus, Wall of Fire. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits, both for fireball. Neither of them is listed as a "trait bonus", so they would work together. Wayang Spellhunter: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. Wayangs are a race of humanoid creatures who migrated to the continent of Tian Xia 1 from the Shadow Plane during the Age of Darkness. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. For ultimate cheese, take the Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter traits for Acid Splash, then cast Authoritative Acid Splash as a cantrip, with no save and no SR. Not sure if it was errata'd, but Wayang Spellhunter trait + 1st level spell + 0-level increase metamagic means 1st level spell as a cantrip. Trait:Wayang Spellhunter: Fiery Shuriken. Benefit: When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic feat, it uses up a spell slot one level lower than it normally would. Wayang Spellhunter wrote: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. You can take both traits but that's usuallly overkill, and it's good to have one trait to personalise your character with. From level 6, you're possessing every enemy you meet. If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and getting a headband of charisma. Being multiclass spellcaster, you probably want Magical Knack. You have to leave room for a magic trait and a regional trait though. If you're specialising in one spell there are the metamagic cost reduction traits (wayang spellhunter & magical lineage) but that isn't required. Buy the wand and just hand it to a caster. 4th, change spell specialisation to burning arc. Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. Choosing to be a human rather than an elf satisfies one but not on its own the other - if you have the wayang spellhunter trait you aren't Keleshite, you're from Minata instead. He’s spitting out a CL9 magic missile in a 1st-level slot, hitting up to 5 targets with a +21 trip attempt. Archives. If you used Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter, your Maximized Shocking Grasps would take up a 2nd level spell slot. Wayang Spellhunter = -1 If they stack it's 3+5-1-1=3, so it ends up up as a level 3 spell. Particularly with magical lineage and Wayang spellhunter traits. Blood Havoc cannot be taken as you have taken a familiar instead. Traits: Magical Lineage (Shocking Grasp), Wayang Spellhunter (Shocking Grasp) Archetype: Kensai (select estoc as your chosen weapon) Race: Human Feats: Weapon Versatility (so your estoc can deal slashing damage) and Slashing Grace at 1st level, later take Intensify Spell, Empower Spell, Quicken Spell and finally Spell Perfection. For traits I would suggest magical lineage and wayang spellhunter for fireball, and then possibly reactionary due to how important going first can be at higher power levels. In a similar vein the MAGICAL LINEAGE or WAYANG SPELLHUNTER background traits are incredibly strong for a Magus, who can use one of these traits to get a level 1 Intensified Shocking Grasp or a level 1 Rime Frostbite (or occasionally a level 1 Toppling Magic Missile). Otherwise you get silly munchkinism, like claiming that the FAQ restrictions on Magical Lineage don't apply to Wayang Spellhunter, or other such shenanigans regarding one-handed weapons like the Bastard Sword. Aqueous Orb won't be the go-to solution. You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. I'm a magus, and i'm trying to reduce the lvl of my shocking grasp so that I can cast it as many times. So they both allow you to treat fireball as a 2nd level spell for calculating its adjusted level, but they don't stack to decrease that further to a first level spell. If you're going to be relying on enchantment spells then you might like the spirit walker archetype to maximise your chance of applying those to undead, the most common creature type that's normally immune. Pearls of Power don't consider traits technically but in context to your question is yes. +1 trait bonus to Perception and it becomes a class skill. This has always been the case, which is why the suggestion for a spellslinger is usually Wizard 1/ Sorcerer X, because your wizard progression is so heavily nerfed by the archetype, and it doesn't affect your sorcerer spells at all. Grab Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage as your traits, apply both to Shocking Grasp Empower is now free, spell level-wise, so your basic Shocking Grasp is now 1. Toppling Magic Missile, Rime Snowball or Persistent Color Spray or Blindness/Deafness (or Hideous Laughter for a Bard) would be fun. The Fate's Favored and Magical Knack traits already use up both typical trait slots, but with a Drawback or Additional Traits you could also pick up Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball (maybe re-flavored for your backstory). Taking the feat Additional Traits could allow you to get Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter for Command Undead. Male wayang illusionist 1. Mad Magic does not work with your raging blood, although that rage is similar to bloodrage it is not bloodrage, so it will not function at all. Mejor Respuesta. . Crypto+4DC Persistent Hideous Laughter comes to mind as a pretty thematic and dangerous option, doable by level 7 if you use Wayang Spellhunter to drop it to a level 3 spell. En el momento de salir de la cul-de-sac, de tu banda/estrella de nivel de amenaza que se Morningstar se generan. For an Ascetic-Dragon TWF build, a single level of MoMS is all that's needed to secure both hands having full Power Attack and Dragon Style. For extra fun with Metamagic traits, take Wayang Spellhunter[Flame Strike] For Race, Gnome is a decent choice for fire-based casters, getting a +1CL to fire spells with the Pyromaniac option. At level 12, they could could have Whip Mastery, Lunge, and Combat Patrol, threaten a 30 ft radius, have 7 AOOs, and have each AOO deliver a Dazing Rime Frostbite: +20 to hit, dealing 1d3+3 damage from the. Metamagic Feat: Rime Spell. Command, suggestion, and Greater command come to mind as great spells to increase DC and CL on. Wayang Feats. As for a spell cartridge build, if your GM does allow a minimum 1d4 base damage, then the feat progression. Still thinking Quick Study and Consume Magic Items are worth getting. Gifted Adept in the same spell is a decent pick, low level it's boosting damage, high level it's boosting your CL checks Vs SR. Combined with other DC/CL tricks like the Arcanist's Potent. They are extremely gaunt, with pixielike stature and skin the color of deep shadow. The two simplest magus builds focus on the shocking grasp spell or the frostbite spell. I wanted to be an Arcane Trickster for pure flavor reasons, but the most important reasons were Ranged Legerdemain (Char lvl5 - lvl1AT) and Sneak Attacking with Spells (lvl 14+). Benefit: When you use the chosen spell with a metamagic. Take Wayang Spellhunter on this spell and Yuelral's Blessing discovery, and you should be good to go. You're not going to be doing much damage. Given that I'd be applying metamagic feats, magical lineage and wayang spellhunter seem important. Personally, I use it with maximize. Empowered Burning Arc is also effective. Feats: 1st spell focus (evocation). IMHO, Wayang Spellhunter simply should not be available, since it states: Wayang Spellhunter wrote: You grew up on one of the wayang-populated islands of Minata, and your use of magic while hunting has been a boon to you. You are going to want Toppling Spell, Disruptive Spell, Dazing Spell, Heighten Spell and Quicken Spell by level 6. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . e. This includes the Magus. Assuming we could use tricks to play an effective caster based on that feat (and I mean every trick: Spell Perfection, Rods (assume very high prices), Metamagic Adept/Wayang Spellhunter, Staff of the Master, Metamagic gems (also pricey), Sacred Geometry, Metamagic Mastery (the only reason a person would play a universalist. As a numbers example, a level 10 human with spell focus, varisian tattoo, and bloodmage initiate for evocation spell, spell specialization for fireball, intensify spell, empower spell, the orc and gold draconic bloodlines, and magical lineage and wayang spellhunter traits for fireball can throw out an empowered intensified fireball out of a. Prerequisite: Wayang. Magical Lineage: Fireball, Wayang Spellhunter: Fireball. Spiralling patterns cover this shadowy humanoid's skin, and its black hair trails away in wisps. you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. I think that is all that I noticed that was wrong so far. You need another spell. I did consider doing it with Shocking Grasp, because I was also eyeballing Brewkeeper and it has strong synergy with touch spells but I probably wont for the reasons I stated above. Wayang spellhunter can't apply (so you could either take something else instead, or use it with a lower level spell that would benefit from a +1 spell level metamagic of choice), but it's pretty debilitating if it lands (puts the target out of the fight and applies a (relatively weak) damage over time to them) so the fact that spell perfection. 2. Select a spell of 3rd level or below. A quickened cantrip can be interpreted as a 4th-level spell (Wayang Spellhunter is capped to 3rd) and it says 'with a metamagic feat', singular. Better effect and you can apply your 0 cost metamagics as well. Similar situation to all Magus'es getting Wayang Spellhunter. Wayang Spellhunter turns into Metamagic Master turns into yes, her teacher in magic loves his metamagic and passed that down to her. 6th, change spell specialisation to fireball. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. Requirement (s) Minata. Can be used in. I'm wondering if it's RAW legal, and whether any of you, as GMs or players, would…What if I have Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter to negate the spell level increase for Persistent Spell? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A. And who knows, maybe if you add additional material components like Alchemist's Fire, you might even create a permanently heal-burning party?Also, consider not taking Wayang Spellhunter right off the bat, and get Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage later with Additional Traits as a feat. The flexibility is nice, but there are usually other ways to get those spells. Reply AmeteurOpinions IRON CASTER • Additional comment actions. You use Potent Magic to raise Snowball's CL and throw extra Snowballs. I can think of no way that allows you to cast 1st level spells as cantrips. BAB = full -1 , and add lvl -4 + 2d6 to each attack is very handy. Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Traits: Wayang Spellhunter (burning arc), Magical lineage (enervation) Skills: Knowledge (arcana, dungeoneering, local, nature, planes, religion) +8, Spellcraft +8 Metamagic pool: 4 Cantrips: detect magic, disrupt undead, acid splash Level 1 spells prepared: Color spray, Summon minor monster Battle 1A: a random CR 3 foe: pteranodon. But it's a cure moderate. I currently have the Wayang Spellhunter (Burning Arc) trait and am taking Spell Perfection at 15. With Magical Lineage (Fireball) and Wayang Spellhunter (Fireball), along with spell perfection (Fireball), you can have a Intensified Dazing Persistent Maximized Fireball in a 7th level slot. View Cart; Help; Pathfinder . Beginner Box ; Rulebooks . Is there any designer's comment on Dazing spell? In addition, he could Heighten for free and using Wayang and Spellhunter, add Rhime and Intensfy Spell for free as well, while casting out of a 3rd level slot. Basically what the title suggests. Toppling spell, Elemental Spell (cold) + Rime Spell, Echoing spell, Quickened spell. Illusions suffer heavily from the bonuses that targets get to their saves when they know it's an illusion, or. You need Intensify Spell unless you want to be capped at 5d6, that's mandatory on SG Magus. Additional traits to get magical lineage is great, try to get wayang spellhunter too. I would think that since Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage provide the exact same benefit, they don't stack. It should be. Maybe a bit too good that makes me wonder. So unless your character is from Minata in Tian Xia, your GM might have an issue with it. (Especially if I summon as a standard, inspire as a move, and Haste as a swift)Magical Knack, Wayang Spellhunter (Mage Hand) Feats: Reach Spell, Equipment Trick (Thieves' Tools), Skill Focus (Sleight of Hand), +3 undecided. Traits: Wayang Spellhunter (Chill Touch). This character is a Tian half-elf descended from the ruling family of Xa Hoi. There are plenty of other ways to use spells in Spell Combat than that. I believe it's been said somewhere that Magical Lineage and Wayang doesn't stack. You could then take empower spell at lvl 5 or better at lvl 7 and use it for every fireball spell you cast as it only costs you a 3rd lvl spell to use. Quote: You can alter any spell that targets a single creature to become an authoritative spell. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Transmuter- +1 CL on all transmutations and extends one. ) Religion: Affinity For The Elements: Fire (Spells cast with the Fire descriptor are cast at +1 DC)Wayang spellhunter or magiced lineage traits for -1 effective spell level on metamagic. Paizo Blog; Forums; PaizoCon; Community Use; GuidelinesNo because Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter actually do two different things. It's irrelevant for spontaneous casters, but could be relevant for pepared casters thay might have a spell prepared with metamagic but not without. As a few feat ideas, Spell Focus[Evocation] or Elemental Focus[Fire] are both good choices, and if you can find a way to raise Int to 13, you can get. What you can’t do is the Wayang Spellhunter Empowered Shocking Grasp (as an example). Various stuff from this page. 5x3d6 per cluster). . Caster: Magical Lineage/Wayang Spellhunter, Draconic Infusion Companion: Rancher, Thoroughbred, Natural Born Leader Anyway, just looking for good suggestions so I can compile the list, considering there's like 5 million traits. Hexes: If you want to be able to heal the healing hex ist a must, even if a lot of people think it's weak. If they "Overlap" then Magical Lineage brings it from 5 down to 4, and. I'd also suggest considering wayang spellhunter for your second trait, preferably for snowball. It still requires 5th level spell slots which are available at 10th level. The caster level for these. It cannot effect the base spell level. Fireball v. The Morphling :If you go with heavens oracle then pick up magical lineage trait and depending on dm approval the wayang spellhunter trait, throw them both towards color spray then use metamagic like heighten spell to boost the dc, you can easily be knocking foes unconscious well into level 10 by adding your level up bonuses to charisma and. Wayangs are short, lean humanoids, similar in stature to gnomes. I suggest carrying a few potions of Remove Fear and learning Placebo Effect as Saethori suggested. Note: In addition to taking Magical Lineage for fireball, if one can also take Wayang Spellhunter for fireball too that'll work even better. you need quicken spell as your level 13 feat so you can use it with your level 15 feat spell perfection. With Creative Destruction, that's 55. Magical Lineage and Wayang Spellhunter can make low level casters a lot more fun. With Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage you can fill up your 1st level slots with Merciful Empowered Rimed Rays of Frost and cast Merciful Empowered Ray of Frost as a cantrip. Asking specifically for those using the CotW mod - given the spells and feats that work with spells (Wayang Spellhunter, for example) - what do you guys think would be the best spell to use with Spell Perfection, as an Eldritch Scion? Another option would be to consider going for the draconic bloodline rather than elemental (lower spell selection ,though you could go for wayang spellhunter+elemental spell to get cold fireballs again, and the cold spells you'd have would hit harder) which gets you some natural armor to help defenses and more importantly opens up the dragon. Wayang Spellhunter (fireball) Empower spell Heighten spell Allied spellcaster Spontaneous metafocus Spell specialization - start this with burning hands, switch to fireball at level 6 Maximize spell Elemental spell rod, couple of regular ones. It's still one of the best strategies when it comes to nova damage. Granted, when you are level 15, you don't need to worry about needing other level one spells, but still limits your flexibility. Or you could have him wear Glamered armor that actually isn't heavy, but looks like heavy. P. When you cast an authoritative spell, choose one of the following activities to prohibit: move closer to you, move away from you, make a melee weapon attack, make a ranged weapon attack, cast an offensive spell, or cast a non-offensive spell. 4) Mythic powers. Wayang spellhunter still does that. What would be the best spell to put these two traits on? What metamagic or other feats would you add for extra optimization? : r/Pathfinder_RPG • 7 yr. Magical lineage and wayang spellhunter both apply to a single spell. Base Speed: Wayangs have a base speed of 20 feet. Second Edition Rulebooks; Official Digital Toolset; Online System Reference; Downloads; First. Taking the Wayang Spellhunter and Magical Lineage traits, provided that they are ruled to stack and you can justify a character from Minata participating in your campaign, knock the level of Authoritative <cantrip> down to zero. Nothing like preventing half the battlefield from taking actions. Feb 12, 2016, 01:02 pm. Wayang Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st; concentration +2) 1/day — ghost sound (DC 11), pass without trace, ventriloquism (DC 12) Arcane School Spell-Like Abilities (CL 1st;. The wayang spellhunter and magical lineage traits gives you a -1 discount to an individual spell for the purposes of metamagic and stack (PFS confirmed) for a -2 overall Wayang Spellhunter Source Dragon Empires Primer pg. About the P. Wayang CR 1/2. I didn't know about Wayang Spell hunter. Cast Defensively in Pathfinder is a joke, in this instance SG = 1st level spell (-2 trait reduction from Magical Lineage + Wayang Spellhunter) = DC 17 Cast Defensively Check. to 5:00 p. That's Awesome. —Pathfinder Design Team, 10/18/13. 5 Go either Fighter or Slayer and grab the remaining feats in any order you want -> paired opportunists, coordinated charge, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, Critical Focus, Improved Critical. Raven777. Wayang Spell Hunter is better than a bonus to UMD. Wayang Spellhunter reduces metamagic cost. (Vast Spell). Standard dex based scimitar build, magical lineage and wayang spellhunter on shocking grasp, no archetype. 1 level of rogue, 10 of arcane trickster and accomplished sneak attacker gets us 7d6 sneak attack.